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Kuan-Wei Chiu March 6, 2025, 4:25 p.m. UTC
Several parts of the kernel contain redundant implementations of parity
calculations for 16/32/64-bit values. Introduces generic
parity16/32/64() helpers in bitops.h, providing a standardized
and optimized implementation. 

Subsequent patches refactor various kernel components to replace
open-coded parity calculations with the new helpers, reducing code
duplication and improving maintainability.

Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
---
In v3, I use parityXX() instead of the parity() macro since the
parity() macro may generate suboptimal code and requires special hacks
to make GCC happy. If anyone still prefers a single parity() macro,
please let me know.

Additionally, I changed parityXX() << y users to !!parityXX() << y
because, unlike C++, C does not guarantee that true casts to int as 1.

Changes in v3:
- Avoid using __builtin_parity.
- Change return type to bool.
- Drop parity() macro.
- Change parityXX() << y to !!parityXX() << y.


Changes in v2:
- Provide fallback functions for __builtin_parity() when the compiler
  decides not to inline it
- Use __builtin_parity() when no architecture-specific implementation
  is available
- Optimize for constant folding when val is a compile-time constant
- Add a generic parity() macro
- Drop the x86 bootflag conversion patch since it has been merged into
  the tip tree

v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250223164217.2139331-1-visitorckw@gmail.com/
v2: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250301142409.2513835-1-visitorckw@gmail.com/

Kuan-Wei Chiu (16):
  bitops: Change parity8() return type to bool
  bitops: Add parity16(), parity32(), and parity64() helpers
  media: media/test_drivers: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
    parity8()
  media: pci: cx18-av-vbi: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
    parity8()
  media: saa7115: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity8()
  serial: max3100: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity8()
  lib/bch: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
  Input: joystick - Replace open-coded parity calculation with
    parity32()
  net: ethernet: oa_tc6: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
    parity32()
  wifi: brcm80211: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
  drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
    parity32()
  mtd: ssfdc: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
  fsi: i2cr: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
  fsi: i2cr: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity64()
  Input: joystick - Replace open-coded parity calculation with
    parity64()
  nfp: bpf: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity64()

 drivers/fsi/fsi-master-i2cr.c                 | 18 ++-----
 .../drm/bridge/synopsys/dw-hdmi-ahb-audio.c   |  8 +--
 drivers/input/joystick/grip_mp.c              | 17 +-----
 drivers/input/joystick/sidewinder.c           | 24 ++-------
 drivers/media/i2c/saa7115.c                   | 12 +----
 drivers/media/pci/cx18/cx18-av-vbi.c          | 12 +----
 .../media/test-drivers/vivid/vivid-vbi-gen.c  |  8 +--
 drivers/mtd/ssfdc.c                           | 20 ++-----
 drivers/net/ethernet/netronome/nfp/nfp_asm.c  |  7 +--
 drivers/net/ethernet/oa_tc6.c                 | 19 ++-----
 .../broadcom/brcm80211/brcmsmac/dma.c         | 16 +-----
 drivers/tty/serial/max3100.c                  |  3 +-
 include/linux/bitops.h                        | 52 +++++++++++++++++--
 lib/bch.c                                     | 14 +----
 14 files changed, 77 insertions(+), 153 deletions(-)

Comments

H. Peter Anvin March 7, 2025, 3:08 a.m. UTC | #1
On March 6, 2025 8:25:25 AM PST, Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com> wrote:
>Several parts of the kernel contain redundant implementations of parity
>calculations for 16/32/64-bit values. Introduces generic
>parity16/32/64() helpers in bitops.h, providing a standardized
>and optimized implementation. 
>
>Subsequent patches refactor various kernel components to replace
>open-coded parity calculations with the new helpers, reducing code
>duplication and improving maintainability.
>
>Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
>---
>In v3, I use parityXX() instead of the parity() macro since the
>parity() macro may generate suboptimal code and requires special hacks
>to make GCC happy. If anyone still prefers a single parity() macro,
>please let me know.
>
>Additionally, I changed parityXX() << y users to !!parityXX() << y
>because, unlike C++, C does not guarantee that true casts to int as 1.
>
>Changes in v3:
>- Avoid using __builtin_parity.
>- Change return type to bool.
>- Drop parity() macro.
>- Change parityXX() << y to !!parityXX() << y.
>
>
>Changes in v2:
>- Provide fallback functions for __builtin_parity() when the compiler
>  decides not to inline it
>- Use __builtin_parity() when no architecture-specific implementation
>  is available
>- Optimize for constant folding when val is a compile-time constant
>- Add a generic parity() macro
>- Drop the x86 bootflag conversion patch since it has been merged into
>  the tip tree
>
>v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250223164217.2139331-1-visitorckw@gmail.com/
>v2: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250301142409.2513835-1-visitorckw@gmail.com/
>
>Kuan-Wei Chiu (16):
>  bitops: Change parity8() return type to bool
>  bitops: Add parity16(), parity32(), and parity64() helpers
>  media: media/test_drivers: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
>    parity8()
>  media: pci: cx18-av-vbi: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
>    parity8()
>  media: saa7115: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity8()
>  serial: max3100: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity8()
>  lib/bch: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
>  Input: joystick - Replace open-coded parity calculation with
>    parity32()
>  net: ethernet: oa_tc6: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
>    parity32()
>  wifi: brcm80211: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
>  drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
>    parity32()
>  mtd: ssfdc: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
>  fsi: i2cr: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
>  fsi: i2cr: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity64()
>  Input: joystick - Replace open-coded parity calculation with
>    parity64()
>  nfp: bpf: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity64()
>
> drivers/fsi/fsi-master-i2cr.c                 | 18 ++-----
> .../drm/bridge/synopsys/dw-hdmi-ahb-audio.c   |  8 +--
> drivers/input/joystick/grip_mp.c              | 17 +-----
> drivers/input/joystick/sidewinder.c           | 24 ++-------
> drivers/media/i2c/saa7115.c                   | 12 +----
> drivers/media/pci/cx18/cx18-av-vbi.c          | 12 +----
> .../media/test-drivers/vivid/vivid-vbi-gen.c  |  8 +--
> drivers/mtd/ssfdc.c                           | 20 ++-----
> drivers/net/ethernet/netronome/nfp/nfp_asm.c  |  7 +--
> drivers/net/ethernet/oa_tc6.c                 | 19 ++-----
> .../broadcom/brcm80211/brcmsmac/dma.c         | 16 +-----
> drivers/tty/serial/max3100.c                  |  3 +-
> include/linux/bitops.h                        | 52 +++++++++++++++++--
> lib/bch.c                                     | 14 +----
> 14 files changed, 77 insertions(+), 153 deletions(-)
>

(int)true most definitely is guaranteed to be 1.
Jiri Slaby March 7, 2025, 6:48 a.m. UTC | #2
On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
> comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
> examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
> potential compiler optimizations.
> 
> Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> ---
>   include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
>   1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
> index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
> --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
> +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
> @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
>   
>   /**
>    * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
> - * @value: the value to be examined
> + * @val: the value to be examined
>    *
>    * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
>    *
>    * Returns:
> - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
> + * false for even parity, true for odd parity

This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means 
that it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even 
distribution. Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed 
odd_parity() when bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.

thanks,
Kuan-Wei Chiu March 7, 2025, 9:19 a.m. UTC | #3
+Cc Waiman Long for bool cast to int discussion

Hi Peter,

On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 07:14:13PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On March 6, 2025 8:25:25 AM PST, Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Several parts of the kernel contain redundant implementations of parity
> >calculations for 16/32/64-bit values. Introduces generic
> >parity16/32/64() helpers in bitops.h, providing a standardized
> >and optimized implementation. 
> >
> >Subsequent patches refactor various kernel components to replace
> >open-coded parity calculations with the new helpers, reducing code
> >duplication and improving maintainability.
> >
> >Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> >Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> >Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> >---
> >In v3, I use parityXX() instead of the parity() macro since the
> >parity() macro may generate suboptimal code and requires special hacks
> >to make GCC happy. If anyone still prefers a single parity() macro,
> >please let me know.
> >
> >Additionally, I changed parityXX() << y users to !!parityXX() << y
> >because, unlike C++, C does not guarantee that true casts to int as 1.
> >
> >Changes in v3:
> >- Avoid using __builtin_parity.
> >- Change return type to bool.
> >- Drop parity() macro.
> >- Change parityXX() << y to !!parityXX() << y.
> >
> >
> >Changes in v2:
> >- Provide fallback functions for __builtin_parity() when the compiler
> >  decides not to inline it
> >- Use __builtin_parity() when no architecture-specific implementation
> >  is available
> >- Optimize for constant folding when val is a compile-time constant
> >- Add a generic parity() macro
> >- Drop the x86 bootflag conversion patch since it has been merged into
> >  the tip tree
> >
> >v1: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250223164217.2139331-1-visitorckw@gmail.com/
> >v2: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250301142409.2513835-1-visitorckw@gmail.com/
> >
> >Kuan-Wei Chiu (16):
> >  bitops: Change parity8() return type to bool
> >  bitops: Add parity16(), parity32(), and parity64() helpers
> >  media: media/test_drivers: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
> >    parity8()
> >  media: pci: cx18-av-vbi: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
> >    parity8()
> >  media: saa7115: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity8()
> >  serial: max3100: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity8()
> >  lib/bch: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
> >  Input: joystick - Replace open-coded parity calculation with
> >    parity32()
> >  net: ethernet: oa_tc6: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
> >    parity32()
> >  wifi: brcm80211: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
> >  drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: Replace open-coded parity calculation with
> >    parity32()
> >  mtd: ssfdc: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
> >  fsi: i2cr: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity32()
> >  fsi: i2cr: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity64()
> >  Input: joystick - Replace open-coded parity calculation with
> >    parity64()
> >  nfp: bpf: Replace open-coded parity calculation with parity64()
> >
> > drivers/fsi/fsi-master-i2cr.c                 | 18 ++-----
> > .../drm/bridge/synopsys/dw-hdmi-ahb-audio.c   |  8 +--
> > drivers/input/joystick/grip_mp.c              | 17 +-----
> > drivers/input/joystick/sidewinder.c           | 24 ++-------
> > drivers/media/i2c/saa7115.c                   | 12 +----
> > drivers/media/pci/cx18/cx18-av-vbi.c          | 12 +----
> > .../media/test-drivers/vivid/vivid-vbi-gen.c  |  8 +--
> > drivers/mtd/ssfdc.c                           | 20 ++-----
> > drivers/net/ethernet/netronome/nfp/nfp_asm.c  |  7 +--
> > drivers/net/ethernet/oa_tc6.c                 | 19 ++-----
> > .../broadcom/brcm80211/brcmsmac/dma.c         | 16 +-----
> > drivers/tty/serial/max3100.c                  |  3 +-
> > include/linux/bitops.h                        | 52 +++++++++++++++++--
> > lib/bch.c                                     | 14 +----
> > 14 files changed, 77 insertions(+), 153 deletions(-)
> >
> 
> !!x is used with a value that is not necessary booleanized already, and is exactly equivalent to (x ? true : false). It is totally redundant on a value known to be bool.
> 
I used to believe that casting a boolean variable to int would always
result in 0 or 1 until a few months ago when Waiman Long explicitly
pointed out during a review that C does not guarantee this.

So I revisited the C11 standard, which states that casting to _Bool
always results in 0 or 1 [1]. Another section specifies that bool,
true, and false are macros defined in <stdbool.h>, with true expanding
to 1 and false to 0. However, these macros can be #undef and redefined
to other values [2]. I'm not sure if this is sufficient to conclude
that casting bool to int will always result in 0 or 1, but if the
consensus is that it does, I'll remove the !! hack in the next version.

> If (int)true wasn't inherently 1, then !! wouldn't work either. 
> 
The C standard guarantees that the ! operator returns an int, either 0
or 1. So regardless of how true casts, using !! should work. Right?

> There was a time when some code would use as a temporary hack: 
> 
> typedef enum { false, true } bool;
> 
> ... when compiling on pre-C99 compilers; in that case a (bool) case wouldn't necessarily work as expected, whereas !! would. Furthermore, unlike (bool), !! works in the preprocessor.

I'm not entirely sure how !! works in the preprocessor. I always
thought it was handled by the compiler. Could you elaborate on this?

Regards,
Kuan-Wei

[1]: 6.3.1.2 Boolean type
1 When any scalar value is converted to _Bool, the result is 0 if the value compares equal
to 0; otherwise, the result is 1.59)

[2]: 7.18 Boolean type and values <stdbool.h>
1 The header <stdbool.h> defines four macros.
2 The macro
bool
expands to _Bool.
3 The remaining three macros are suitable for use in #if preprocessing directives. They
are
true
which expands to the integer constant 1,
false
which expands to the integer constant 0, and
_ _bool_true_false_are_defined
which expands to the integer constant 1.
4 Notwithstanding the provisions of 7.1.3, a program may undefine and perhaps then
redefine the macros bool, true, and false.
259)
Kuan-Wei Chiu March 7, 2025, 9:22 a.m. UTC | #4
Hi Jiri,

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:57:48AM +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
> On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> > Several parts of the kernel contain redundant implementations of parity
> > calculations for 16/32/64-bit values. Introduces generic
> > parity16/32/64() helpers in bitops.h, providing a standardized
> > and optimized implementation.
> > 
> > Subsequent patches refactor various kernel components to replace
> > open-coded parity calculations with the new helpers, reducing code
> > duplication and improving maintainability.
> > 
> > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > In v3, I use parityXX() instead of the parity() macro since the
> > parity() macro may generate suboptimal code and requires special hacks
> > to make GCC happy. If anyone still prefers a single parity() macro,
> > please let me know.
> 
> What is suboptimal and where exactly it matters? Have you actually measured
> it?
> 
In the previous thread, David and Yury had different opinions regarding
the implementation details of the parity() macro. I am trying to find a
solution that satisfies most people while keeping it as simple as
possible.

I cannot point to any specific users who are particularly concerned
about efficiency, so personally, I am not really concerned about the
generated code either. However, I am not a fan of the #if gcc #else
approach, and Yury also mentioned that he does not like the >> 16 >> 16
hack. At the same time, David pointed out that GCC might generate
double-register math. Given these concerns, I leaned toward reverting
to the parityXX() approach.

If you still prefer using the parity() macro, we can revisit and
discuss its implementation details further.

> > Additionally, I changed parityXX() << y users to !!parityXX() << y
> > because, unlike C++, C does not guarantee that true casts to int as 1.
> 
> How comes? ANSI C99 exactly states:
> ===
> true
> which expands to the integer constant 1,
> ===
> 
I gave a more detailed response in my reply to Peter. If we can confirm
that casting bool to int will only result in 1 or 0, I will remove the
!! hack in the next version.

Regards,
Kuan-Wei
Jiri Slaby March 7, 2025, 10:52 a.m. UTC | #5
On 07. 03. 25, 10:19, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> I used to believe that casting a boolean variable to int would always
> result in 0 or 1 until a few months ago when Waiman Long explicitly
> pointed out during a review that C does not guarantee this.
> 
> So I revisited the C11 standard, which states that casting to _Bool
> always results in 0 or 1 [1]. Another section specifies that bool,
> true, and false are macros defined in <stdbool.h>, with true expanding
> to 1 and false to 0. However, these macros can be #undef and redefined
> to other values [2].

Note that we do not have/use user's stdbool.h in kernel at all. Instead, 
in linux/stddef.h, we define:
enum {
         false   = 0,
         true    = 1
};

So all is blue.

thanks,
Ingo Molnar March 7, 2025, 11:38 a.m. UTC | #6
* Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:

> On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> > Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
> > comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
> > examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
> > potential compiler optimizations.
> > 
> > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >   include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
> >   1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
> > index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
> > @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
> >   /**
> >    * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
> > - * @value: the value to be examined
> > + * @val: the value to be examined
> >    *
> >    * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
> >    *
> >    * Returns:
> > - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
> > + * false for even parity, true for odd parity
> 
> This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means that
> it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even distribution.
> Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed odd_parity() when
> bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.

OTOH:

 - '0' is an even number and is returned for even parity,
 - '1' is an odd  number and is returned for odd  parity.

Thanks,

	Ingo
Jiri Slaby March 7, 2025, 11:42 a.m. UTC | #7
On 07. 03. 25, 12:38, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
>>> Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
>>> comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
>>> examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
>>> potential compiler optimizations.
>>>
>>> Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
>>> ---
>>>    include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
>>>    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
>>> index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
>>> @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
>>>    /**
>>>     * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
>>> - * @value: the value to be examined
>>> + * @val: the value to be examined
>>>     *
>>>     * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
>>>     *
>>>     * Returns:
>>> - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
>>> + * false for even parity, true for odd parity
>>
>> This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means that
>> it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even distribution.
>> Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed odd_parity() when
>> bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.
> 
> OTOH:
> 
>   - '0' is an even number and is returned for even parity,
>   - '1' is an odd  number and is returned for odd  parity.

Yes, that used to make sense for me. For bool/true/false, it no longer 
does. But as I wrote, it might be only me...

thanks,
Ingo Molnar March 7, 2025, 12:13 p.m. UTC | #8
* Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:

> On 07. 03. 25, 12:38, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> > > > Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
> > > > comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
> > > > examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
> > > > potential compiler optimizations.
> > > > 
> > > > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >    include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
> > > >    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
> > > > index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
> > > > @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
> > > >    /**
> > > >     * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
> > > > - * @value: the value to be examined
> > > > + * @val: the value to be examined
> > > >     *
> > > >     * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
> > > >     *
> > > >     * Returns:
> > > > - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
> > > > + * false for even parity, true for odd parity
> > > 
> > > This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means that
> > > it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even distribution.
> > > Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed odd_parity() when
> > > bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.
> > 
> > OTOH:
> > 
> >   - '0' is an even number and is returned for even parity,
> >   - '1' is an odd  number and is returned for odd  parity.
> 
> Yes, that used to make sense for me. For bool/true/false, it no longer does.
> But as I wrote, it might be only me...

No strong opinion on this from me either, I'd guess existing practice 
with other parity functions should probably control. (If a coherent 
praxis exists.).

Thanks,

	Ingo
H. Peter Anvin March 7, 2025, 12:14 p.m. UTC | #9
On March 7, 2025 4:13:26 AM PST, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>* Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> On 07. 03. 25, 12:38, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> > 
>> > * Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
>> > > > Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
>> > > > comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
>> > > > examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
>> > > > potential compiler optimizations.
>> > > > 
>> > > > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>> > > > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>> > > > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
>> > > > ---
>> > > >    include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
>> > > >    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>> > > > 
>> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
>> > > > index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
>> > > > --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
>> > > > +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
>> > > > @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
>> > > >    /**
>> > > >     * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
>> > > > - * @value: the value to be examined
>> > > > + * @val: the value to be examined
>> > > >     *
>> > > >     * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
>> > > >     *
>> > > >     * Returns:
>> > > > - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
>> > > > + * false for even parity, true for odd parity
>> > > 
>> > > This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means that
>> > > it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even distribution.
>> > > Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed odd_parity() when
>> > > bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.
>> > 
>> > OTOH:
>> > 
>> >   - '0' is an even number and is returned for even parity,
>> >   - '1' is an odd  number and is returned for odd  parity.
>> 
>> Yes, that used to make sense for me. For bool/true/false, it no longer does.
>> But as I wrote, it might be only me...
>
>No strong opinion on this from me either, I'd guess existing practice 
>with other parity functions should probably control. (If a coherent 
>praxis exists.).
>
>Thanks,
>
>	Ingo

Instead of "bool" think of it as "bit" and it makes more sense
Yury Norov March 7, 2025, 3:55 p.m. UTC | #10
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:57:48AM +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
> On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> > Several parts of the kernel contain redundant implementations of parity
> > calculations for 16/32/64-bit values. Introduces generic
> > parity16/32/64() helpers in bitops.h, providing a standardized
> > and optimized implementation.
> > 
> > Subsequent patches refactor various kernel components to replace
> > open-coded parity calculations with the new helpers, reducing code
> > duplication and improving maintainability.
> > 
> > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > In v3, I use parityXX() instead of the parity() macro since the
> > parity() macro may generate suboptimal code and requires special hacks
> > to make GCC happy. If anyone still prefers a single parity() macro,
> > please let me know.
> 
> What is suboptimal and where exactly it matters? Have you actually measured
> it?

I asked exactly this question at least 3 times, and have never
received perf tests or asm listings - nothing. I've never received
any comments from driver maintainers about how performance of the
parity() is important for them, as well.

With the absence of _any_ feedback, I'm not going to take this series,
of course, for the reason: overengineering.

With that said, the simplest way would be replacing parity8(u8) with
parity(u64) 'one size fits all' thing. I even made a one extra step,
suggesting a macro that would generate a better code for smaller types
with almost no extra maintenance burden. This is another acceptable
option to me.

Thanks,
Yury
Kuan-Wei Chiu March 7, 2025, 6:30 p.m. UTC | #11
Hi Yury,

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 10:55:13AM -0500, Yury Norov wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:57:48AM +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
> > On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> > > Several parts of the kernel contain redundant implementations of parity
> > > calculations for 16/32/64-bit values. Introduces generic
> > > parity16/32/64() helpers in bitops.h, providing a standardized
> > > and optimized implementation.
> > > 
> > > Subsequent patches refactor various kernel components to replace
> > > open-coded parity calculations with the new helpers, reducing code
> > > duplication and improving maintainability.
> > > 
> > > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > > In v3, I use parityXX() instead of the parity() macro since the
> > > parity() macro may generate suboptimal code and requires special hacks
> > > to make GCC happy. If anyone still prefers a single parity() macro,
> > > please let me know.
> > 
> > What is suboptimal and where exactly it matters? Have you actually measured
> > it?
> 
> I asked exactly this question at least 3 times, and have never
> received perf tests or asm listings - nothing. I've never received
> any comments from driver maintainers about how performance of the
> parity() is important for them, as well.
> 
To be clear, I use parityXX() was mainly because you dislike the >>
16 >> 16 hack, and I dislike the #if gcc #else hackā€”not due to
performance or generated code considerations.

> With the absence of _any_ feedback, I'm not going to take this series,
> of course, for the reason: overengineering.
> 
I'm quite surprised that three separate one-line functions are
considered overengineering compared to a multi-line approach that
requires special handling to satisfy gcc.

> With that said, the simplest way would be replacing parity8(u8) with
> parity(u64) 'one size fits all' thing. I even made a one extra step,
> suggesting a macro that would generate a better code for smaller types
> with almost no extra maintenance burden. This is another acceptable
> option to me.
> 
I'm fine with unifying everything to a single parity(u64) function.
Before I submit the next version, please let me know if anyone has
objections to this approach.

Regards,
Kuan-Wei
Yury Norov March 7, 2025, 7:30 p.m. UTC | #12
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 04:14:34AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On March 7, 2025 4:13:26 AM PST, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> >* Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 07. 03. 25, 12:38, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > * Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> >> > > > Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
> >> > > > comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
> >> > > > examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
> >> > > > potential compiler optimizations.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> >> > > > ---
> >> > > >    include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
> >> > > >    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
> >> > > > index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
> >> > > > --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
> >> > > > +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
> >> > > > @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
> >> > > >    /**
> >> > > >     * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
> >> > > > - * @value: the value to be examined
> >> > > > + * @val: the value to be examined
> >> > > >     *
> >> > > >     * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
> >> > > >     *
> >> > > >     * Returns:
> >> > > > - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
> >> > > > + * false for even parity, true for odd parity
> >> > > 
> >> > > This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means that
> >> > > it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even distribution.
> >> > > Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed odd_parity() when
> >> > > bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.
> >> > 
> >> > OTOH:
> >> > 
> >> >   - '0' is an even number and is returned for even parity,
> >> >   - '1' is an odd  number and is returned for odd  parity.
> >> 
> >> Yes, that used to make sense for me. For bool/true/false, it no longer does.
> >> But as I wrote, it might be only me...
> >
> >No strong opinion on this from me either, I'd guess existing practice 
> >with other parity functions should probably control. (If a coherent 
> >praxis exists.).
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >	Ingo
> 
> Instead of "bool" think of it as "bit" and it makes more sense

So, to help people thinking that way we can introduce a corresponding
type:
        typedef unsigned _BitInt(1) u1;

It already works for clang, and GCC is going to adopt it with std=c23.
We can make u1 an alias to bool for GCC for a while. If you guys like
it, I can send a patch.

For clang it prints quite a nice overflow warning:

tst.c:59:9: warning: implicit conversion from 'int' to 'u1' (aka 'unsigned _BitInt(1)') changes value from 2 to 0 [-Wconstant-conversion]
   59 |         u1 r = 2;
      |            ~   ^

Thanks,
Yury
H. Peter Anvin March 7, 2025, 7:33 p.m. UTC | #13
On March 7, 2025 11:30:08 AM PST, Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 04:14:34AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On March 7, 2025 4:13:26 AM PST, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >* Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 07. 03. 25, 12:38, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > * Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > > On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
>> >> > > > Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
>> >> > > > comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
>> >> > > > examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
>> >> > > > potential compiler optimizations.
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > ---
>> >> > > >    include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
>> >> > > >    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>> >> > > > 
>> >> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
>> >> > > > index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
>> >> > > > --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
>> >> > > > +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
>> >> > > > @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
>> >> > > >    /**
>> >> > > >     * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
>> >> > > > - * @value: the value to be examined
>> >> > > > + * @val: the value to be examined
>> >> > > >     *
>> >> > > >     * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
>> >> > > >     *
>> >> > > >     * Returns:
>> >> > > > - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
>> >> > > > + * false for even parity, true for odd parity
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means that
>> >> > > it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even distribution.
>> >> > > Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed odd_parity() when
>> >> > > bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.
>> >> > 
>> >> > OTOH:
>> >> > 
>> >> >   - '0' is an even number and is returned for even parity,
>> >> >   - '1' is an odd  number and is returned for odd  parity.
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, that used to make sense for me. For bool/true/false, it no longer does.
>> >> But as I wrote, it might be only me...
>> >
>> >No strong opinion on this from me either, I'd guess existing practice 
>> >with other parity functions should probably control. (If a coherent 
>> >praxis exists.).
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >	Ingo
>> 
>> Instead of "bool" think of it as "bit" and it makes more sense
>
>So, to help people thinking that way we can introduce a corresponding
>type:
>        typedef unsigned _BitInt(1) u1;
>
>It already works for clang, and GCC is going to adopt it with std=c23.
>We can make u1 an alias to bool for GCC for a while. If you guys like
>it, I can send a patch.
>
>For clang it prints quite a nice overflow warning:
>
>tst.c:59:9: warning: implicit conversion from 'int' to 'u1' (aka 'unsigned _BitInt(1)') changes value from 2 to 0 [-Wconstant-conversion]
>   59 |         u1 r = 2;
>      |            ~   ^
>
>Thanks,
>Yury

No, for a whole bunch of reasons.
David Laight March 7, 2025, 7:36 p.m. UTC | #14
On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 12:42:41 +0100
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:

> On 07. 03. 25, 12:38, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:  
> >>> Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
> >>> comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
> >>> examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
> >>> potential compiler optimizations.
> >>>
> >>> Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>    include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
> >>>    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
> >>> index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
> >>> --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
> >>> +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
> >>> @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
> >>>    /**
> >>>     * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
> >>> - * @value: the value to be examined
> >>> + * @val: the value to be examined
> >>>     *
> >>>     * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
> >>>     *
> >>>     * Returns:
> >>> - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
> >>> + * false for even parity, true for odd parity  
> >>
> >> This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means that
> >> it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even distribution.
> >> Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed odd_parity() when
> >> bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.  
> > 
> > OTOH:
> > 
> >   - '0' is an even number and is returned for even parity,
> >   - '1' is an odd  number and is returned for odd  parity.  
> 
> Yes, that used to make sense for me. For bool/true/false, it no longer 
> does. But as I wrote, it might be only me...

No me as well, I've made the same comment before.
When reading code I don't want to have to look up a function definition.
There is even scope for having parity_odd() and parity_even().
And, with the version that shifts a constant right you want to invert
the constant!

	David
H. Peter Anvin March 7, 2025, 7:39 p.m. UTC | #15
On March 7, 2025 11:36:43 AM PST, David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 12:42:41 +0100
>Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> On 07. 03. 25, 12:38, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> > 
>> > * Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >   
>> >> On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:  
>> >>> Change return type to bool for better clarity. Update the kernel doc
>> >>> comment accordingly, including fixing "@value" to "@val" and adjusting
>> >>> examples. Also mark the function with __attribute_const__ to allow
>> >>> potential compiler optimizations.
>> >>>
>> >>> Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>> >>> Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@gmail.com>
>> >>> Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@gmail.com>
>> >>> ---
>> >>>    include/linux/bitops.h | 10 +++++-----
>> >>>    1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>> >>>
>> >>> diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
>> >>> index c1cb53cf2f0f..44e5765b8bec 100644
>> >>> --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
>> >>> +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
>> >>> @@ -231,26 +231,26 @@ static inline int get_count_order_long(unsigned long l)
>> >>>    /**
>> >>>     * parity8 - get the parity of an u8 value
>> >>> - * @value: the value to be examined
>> >>> + * @val: the value to be examined
>> >>>     *
>> >>>     * Determine the parity of the u8 argument.
>> >>>     *
>> >>>     * Returns:
>> >>> - * 0 for even parity, 1 for odd parity
>> >>> + * false for even parity, true for odd parity  
>> >>
>> >> This occurs somehow inverted to me. When something is in parity means that
>> >> it has equal number of 1s and 0s. I.e. return true for even distribution.
>> >> Dunno what others think? Or perhaps this should be dubbed odd_parity() when
>> >> bool is returned? Then you'd return true for odd.  
>> > 
>> > OTOH:
>> > 
>> >   - '0' is an even number and is returned for even parity,
>> >   - '1' is an odd  number and is returned for odd  parity.  
>> 
>> Yes, that used to make sense for me. For bool/true/false, it no longer 
>> does. But as I wrote, it might be only me...
>
>No me as well, I've made the same comment before.
>When reading code I don't want to have to look up a function definition.
>There is even scope for having parity_odd() and parity_even().
>And, with the version that shifts a constant right you want to invert
>the constant!
>
>	David
>
>
>
>

Of course, for me, if I saw "parity_odd()" I would think of it as a function that caused the parity to become odd, i.e.

if (!parity(x))
  x ^= 1 << 7;
H. Peter Anvin March 7, 2025, 8:07 p.m. UTC | #16
On March 7, 2025 11:53:10 AM PST, David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 11:30:35 -0800
>"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>
>> On March 7, 2025 10:49:56 AM PST, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>> >> (int)true most definitely is guaranteed to be 1.  
>> >
>> >That's not technically correct any more.
>> >
>> >GCC has introduced hardened bools that intentionally have bit patterns
>> >other than 0 and 1.
>> >
>> >https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-14/changes.html
>> >
>> >~Andrew  
>> 
>> Bit patterns in memory maybe (not that I can see the Linux kernel using them) but
>> for compiler-generated conversations that's still a given, or the manager isn't C
>> or anything even remotely like it.
>> 
>
>The whole idea of 'bool' is pretty much broken by design.
>The underlying problem is that values other than 'true' and 'false' can
>always get into 'bool' variables.
>
>Once that has happened it is all fubar.
>
>Trying to sanitise a value with (say):
>int f(bool v)
>{
>	return (int)v & 1;
>}    
>just doesn't work (see https://www.godbolt.org/z/MEndP3q9j)
>
>I really don't see how using (say) 0xaa and 0x55 helps.
>What happens if the value is wrong? a trap or exception?, good luck recovering
>from that.
>
>	David

Did you just discover GIGO?
Kuan-Wei Chiu March 9, 2025, 3:48 p.m. UTC | #17
On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 12:07:02PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On March 7, 2025 11:53:10 AM PST, David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 11:30:35 -0800
> >"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On March 7, 2025 10:49:56 AM PST, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
> >> >> (int)true most definitely is guaranteed to be 1.  
> >> >
> >> >That's not technically correct any more.
> >> >
> >> >GCC has introduced hardened bools that intentionally have bit patterns
> >> >other than 0 and 1.
> >> >
> >> >https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-14/changes.html
> >> >
> >> >~Andrew  
> >> 
> >> Bit patterns in memory maybe (not that I can see the Linux kernel using them) but
> >> for compiler-generated conversations that's still a given, or the manager isn't C
> >> or anything even remotely like it.
> >> 
> >
> >The whole idea of 'bool' is pretty much broken by design.
> >The underlying problem is that values other than 'true' and 'false' can
> >always get into 'bool' variables.
> >
> >Once that has happened it is all fubar.
> >
> >Trying to sanitise a value with (say):
> >int f(bool v)
> >{
> >	return (int)v & 1;
> >}    
> >just doesn't work (see https://www.godbolt.org/z/MEndP3q9j)
> >
> >I really don't see how using (say) 0xaa and 0x55 helps.
> >What happens if the value is wrong? a trap or exception?, good luck recovering
> >from that.
> >
> >	David
> 
> Did you just discover GIGO?

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I don't have a strong opinion on the naming or return type. I'm still a
bit confused about whether I can assume that casting bool to int always
results in 0 or 1.

If that's the case, since most people prefer bool over int as the
return type and some are against introducing u1, my current plan is to
use the following in the next version:

bool parity_odd(u64 val);

This keeps the bool return type, renames the function for better
clarity, and avoids extra maintenance burden by having just one
function.

If I can't assume that casting bool to int always results in 0 or 1,
would it be acceptable to keep the return type as int?

Would this work for everyone?

Regards,
Kuan-Wei
Jiri Slaby March 9, 2025, 5:42 p.m. UTC | #18
On 09. 03. 25, 16:48, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> Would this work for everyone?

+1 for /me.